Volt vs. LEAF-EV:
GM-hoax vs. a real LEAF-EV
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GM VOLT: a plug-in, but not an EV.
Engine comes on to turn wheels, like a Prius. |
Nissan Leaf: A real EV, uses no oil or gas while running.
No tailpipe! Can be fueled by your rooftop solar system, a rooftop system of only 6 to 12 square yards, 1.3 kw
(cost: $8000 before rebate or tax credit) is enough to drive 1000 miles per month. |
Battery pack is located above the center of gravity, and between the seats: meaning only a 4-seater,
and with a less than stable feeling on turns. |
Battery is located on the undercarriage, like the Toyota RAV4-EV, giving it stability and
making it a 5-seater with more room in the cabin. |
Drives and feels like an oil-fired car, not an EV |
Feels and drives like a real EV, peppy and smooth around corners |
Battery is too large (16 kWh) for the amount you are allowed to use (8 kWh) because it's designed
like a Prius, putting the gas engine prior to the electric drive, so you can only use half the battery. |
Designed like a real EV, 24 kWh which are 80% accessible. This lowers the wear-and-tear on
the battery and gives more range. |
3900 lbs, much too heavy (heavier than the larger Toyota RAV4-EV) because it has the wrong battery
and the wrong design. |
3500 lbs., with a 660 lb. battery pack. Still the wrong battery, since it only has a lifespan
of 5 to 10 years and 80,000 to 100,000 miles.
Nickel is cheaper and longer-lasting, and less heavy in practice. A 30 kWh NiMH pack weighs 1000 lbs., the 20 kWh
you can access in the LEAF weighs about the same per kWh (30 lbs. per kWh) but costs more and doesn't last as long. |
The wrong battery. ironically, the 400 lbs. of Lithium in the VOLT yield only 8 kWh (40 lbs.
per kWh) while 400 lbs. of Nickel batteries would yield 12 kWh (33 lbs. per kWh) |
Nissan plans to recycle used batteries into new batteries, enabling lower cost and eliminating
the need for new mining of the metals in the battery. |
Supposedly a car for all missions: but if you drive it long-distance, you will pay 35 to 50 cents
per mile in over-mileage charges, meaning it's too expensive for long-distance. |
Those wanting to travel long-distance should analyze WHY: if it's to save money, take a TRAIN.
If it's to see the USA, take an RV. The idea of driving cars or trucks long-distance on cheap subsidized oil is
PAST HISTORY. |
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GM VOLT "hoaxsters"
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Nissan LEAF forum
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Reporters don't ask GM the tough questions, just ignore the hundreds of successful EVs that GM failed to crush (the
Toyota RAV4-EV) which are still running, despite GM and Chevron's collusion (GM sold the patents to Chevron, which
then sued Toyota). GM tried to interdict use of advanced NiMH batteries and stop Toyota from making a plug-in car.
- GM helped Standard Oil of California (Chevron) suppress NiMH batteries
for plug-in cars.
- GM is not telling the truth about the success of EV1, HondaEV and RAV4-EV.
- If GM were honest, it should issue the VOLT with existing batteries,
upgrade if Lithium pans out.
- GM still suppressing volunteers who restored
the WWU EV1 to
running condition.
- GM crushed EV1 and arrested its own customers, now begs for bailout.
- If GM had started reopening the EV1 line in 2006, when it announced
the VOLT, they would be delivering them today! Vice Chairman Lutz has no answer except to say that the EV1 cost
too much to build (with lead-acid batteries??) and can not meet currrent "safety requirements". A big
lie.
- In 1996, GM claimed it could have supplied any demand for EV1. What's
changed?
- GM had a prototype ExtendedRange EV (EREV) Oldsmobile in 1969, and exhibited
a version of the EV1 in 1998 which had a Range Extender. Why wait to 2011 for the supposed VOLT?
- The EV1 would have great appeal, if GM resumed production; it would
show good faith, and be much cheaper than designing a whole new car. Why not start with what worked?
- Ask GM to come clean about NiMH batteries, and explain why it's using
them for the very real hybrids that can't plug in, but not for the imaginary VOLT.
- EVERY successful EV (RAV4-EV, EV1, RangerEV, S10E, HondaEV) started
with lead-acid batteries, and then upgraded to NiMH. They didn't wait for the perfect battery, they were just produced.
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Does GM have an answer to these facts?
GM is lying about the VOLT, just as it lied about the EV1.
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Hon. Nate Holden calls for GM to resume production
of the EV1 [Video]
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Despite all the talk about the revival of the EV,
only limited numbers of EVs, none of which can equal the 1997 Nickel RAV4-EV,
are being built.
Until you can go into a showroom, pay a reasonable price, and drive out that day with an EV,
SO FAR, NO CAR.
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Toyota honorably sold the EV on the right to willing buyers, and it's still on the
road!
GM crushed the EV on the left, claiming that they were afraid to sell it.
Perhaps
they were afraid that people would want more! |
GM is a failure: begging for handouts after arresting its own customers.
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If GM were serious, it would stop lying about the EV1
and start the VOLT with lead-acid batteries, then later upgrade to NiMH or Lithium.
This is the way ALL successful EVs were developed:
HondaEV, RAV4-EV, EV1, RangerEV, S10E, etc.
But don't just take one point of view:
Compare the facts as presented here with GM's view.
GM has the ear of reporters, a huge PR staff and lots
of ad money to spread what is considered GM's lies and disinformation. See if you can figure out how GM cons reporters,
and why they don't ask the tough questions but just accept GM's phony apologia.
GM isn't willing to debate the issues, even on their terms. GM only wants you to believe what they say, and take
it on faith. But why believe bozo management
that drove GM from being the dominant manufacturing
company in the world, to begging for government handouts to save it??
Here are some of what are considered GM's glib lies, where GM tries to con you into thinking it's not hostile to
plug-in cars.
But when reading their propaganda, remember some of
the questions raised here, and NOTE that GM has NO
ANSWER.
Find out what GM has to say about the Chevy VOLT, write to
GM, demand a plug-in car!
Don't let GM get away with killing the EV all over again.
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